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=**__Loose Change__**= By Rachel
 * Drills practiced on Pentagon for planes hitting The Pentagon
 * New instructions for military response to a hijacking issued June 2001
 * Bomb sniffer dogs came out of the TTs a couple weeks from the attack
 * Willie Brown, mayor of San Francisco, received a phone call from National Security warning him not to fly to New York as he planned ( Sept 11th)
 * 14 fighter jets were available to protect the whole of America on sept 11 all the other planes were on training exercises
 * Plane 77( pentagon) skidded across the lawn, but no sign of any damage ( angle it hit could of only be possible if it went across the lawn)
 * No evidence of plane 77 near Pentagon apart from small pieces that specialists don't believe were even parts of plane 77
 * Plane 757 has titanium and steel engines. Titanium has a melting point of 1688'C. Jet fuel= Hydro Carbon can only burn TItanium to nothing if it burns at 1120'C for a time of 40 minute. The Pentagon was only burning for a couple of seconds, making it scientifically impossible for the engines to have been vaporized which was the governments theories
 * The hole in the Pentagon was not big enough for the plane
 * Pieces of the plane 77 that were found were not scratched or singed after being in a major explosion
 * Lady in the Pentagon was given money and told that a plane had crashed into the building but she had not seen or heard anything. in a strong explosive
 * Employees of the Pentagon smelt Cordite, which is a explosive that produces a strong detonation
 * 5:20 : A building containing important Wall street investigation files, CIA files, etc. collapses, 3000ft from the North tower
 * All debris fell into a neat pile
 * 6 seconds to collapse
 * Explanation of collapse: Debris from WTTs caused internal fire
 * 3rd building (of its structure) in the history of the world to collapse from fire (TTs were the 1st and 2nd buildings to collapse from fire)
 * A building in Philadelphia burned for 19 hours in 26 floors and did not collapse
 * Witnesses saw bright lights and heard crackling sounds
 * 143 firefighters died
 * A secret firefighters transmission was blocked by the government and released after a long time
 * Flight 93 made no sound when it crashed, there was no smoke, debris. THere was no blood and the bodies disappeared
 * 11:43 am, WCPO reported 2 planes landing in Cleaveland Airport (after flight 93 crash) one of the planes was identified as flight 93
 * 2 of the Sept 11th planes were not even scheduled to fly that day
 * All phone calls from the planes could not of happened because the height of the plane made it impossible to get reception
 * All callers from plane sounded strange to the receiver of the calls;way too calm
 * Black boxes

Sage:(Me and Rachel watched the documentary together, so we split the notes.) These are all facts supporting the conspiracy theories:

Sage
 * __The Pentagon Attack__**
 * On September 7th put options on the Beoing 757 were at a value 27 284, which was 5 times the average of the regular put options. Why did the put options go up right at the time of 9/11?
 * On September 10th put options on American Airlines were at a value of 4516, which is 11 times the average. Why did the put options go up right at the time of 9/11?
 * At 9:38 am the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon turned around and descended 7000 feet in 2:30 minutes. Pros say that isn't possible, it would have caused a speed stall. How is that possible?
 * The plane ripped out 5 lamp posts and there was no damage to the wings. How could that be possible if a private plane ripped out only one lamp post and lost a wing?
 * Some people say the plane was vaporized and bodies were found. How a plane be vaporized and not fragile bodies?
 * Two planes were in the sky around the Pentagon after the hit. Why were they in the sky? Could the planes have been shouting missiles?
 * __The World Trade Centre Attack__**
 * Charles Berling was the plane driver of the Beoing 757, he retired and a year later his plane Beoing 757 crashes into the Pentagon. Why would he do that when he was only 43?
 * The owner of the World Trade Centre leases for 99 years for 3.2 billion dollars six weeks before 9/11. Why lease the World Trade Centre when it's worth so much?
 * There have been big fire on skyscrapers similar to the world trade centre. One of the skyscraper fires burned for 19 hours and spread over 26 floors and it did not collapse. Why did the World Trade Centre have fires that only burned for less than an hour and spread over only a few floors and they collapsed?
 * There was a second explosion heard on the second tower that was hit. Why? Could there have been missiles planted in the tower?
 * Weeks before 9/11, the Twin Towers and World Trade Centre 7 were evacuated for "security reasons". Why did they do this?
 * There was gold underneath World Trade Centre 4 and it was found beneath World Trade Centre 5 before the Twin Towers collapsed, in a truck and cars with no people. How did people know to run away when even firefighters didn't know they would collapse?
 * __Pennsylvania Crash__**
 * A photographer saw a hole in the ground with only ashes and a few broken trees. Why were there no bodies or plane parts found?
 * The recorder of the plane 93 was found, but the last three minutes were not recorded or they were erased. How come there are no last three minutes? Could there be something secret in them?

just to note on the fact that sage posted how did the people know to move the gold without the knowledge that the trade centers were to collapase and the answer is they didnt know but it was just a safety percaution that had been planned to keep the gold safe in case the trade centers collapsed.

Nathan

They did not even need to now it was because of safety they could just of told them they needed to move the gold nathan nv

Sage Well I agree with you. I was just posting the facts they said in //Loose Change//. Sage


 * __the following was posted by nicholas v__**

PENTAGON missile theorie

- at 9:37 am the pentagon was hit - it was not a plane that hit the petagon but instead a missile - there was no damage done to the lamp posts that the plane would have been unable to miss - the lampposts also would have ripped off the wings of the plane and been damaged if it was a plane that hit the pentagon - there was no skid marks on the grass in front off the pentagon wich means that the plane would not have been ablke to get down this low with out hitting the grass - there was few plane prarts recovered and the F.B.I said that they must have evcaporated but the fire did not burn hot enough for long enough to evaporate the metal - the plane engines shoiul;d have been found but instead a missile engine was recovered - the F.B.I also tok all the footage of the crash from everyone that had caught itç - the pentagon cameras some how did not get the footage of ythe crash according to the F.B.I although there is cameras all over the pentagon - On march 7th 2002 five images of the crash were released - on march 16 2006 a audio tape was recovered containing two sound tracks from security cameras - on October 14 2004 freedom of information lawsuit was sent to the government by Scott denghim - on sept 15th 2006 a video of the crash from Sitco gasstation was released - on Dec 7th 2006 a video of the crash from the double tree was released - in total the F.B.I was believed to have taken 85 video tapes -the color of the fire was not the color of burning jet fuel - there was reports from the hijackers saying that they are alive and out of the country - weeks ahead of the crash 2 things happened: 1 is that confidential files were moved to the area of the crash and later destroyed in the crash and 2 is that the area of the crash was renovated to withstand this type of a plane crash but the F.B.I denies this anti air craft deffense renovation - witnesses said that they did not see a plane or here one but saw a narrow streak and felt vibrations like a bomb going off - many of the witnesses changed there stories of the crash after they had been interviewed by the F.B.I - the F.B.I was seen planting evidence of plane parts and seen carrying out a large blue tarped mystery box - as i mentioned befor how the F.B.I said that the plane parts had evapioratef in the fir but could not explain why the bodies did not evaporate like the metal did - the pentagon members had also just finished practising what to do if a plane hit there building

I think that the whole missle hitting the pentagon building conpiracy is very possable. However I do not understand how even though ther is very little parts from a plane there still is some bits and pieces for the actual plane. I do agrea in this theory but I feel like somthing is missing peices to the actrual theroy nathan m

I agree with Nathan on the fact that there is somthing missing from the stories or reports, but the pieces could have been placed there from the personnel that was there after the attack, investigating all the evidence. nicholas v the following was posted by nicholasv

911 TRADE CENTERS

to tie into a few facts that already have been posted

- the owner of the trade centers got insurance for his buildings that covered terrorist attacks including plane crashes these facts bellow are found in a magazine and are reliable (to see this page and a chart of the airlines in the magazine ask nicholasv and he will show you) 8:00am flight 11, boeing 767 leaves boston to L.A with 11 crew and 81 passengers 8:14am 2- flight 175, boeing 767 leaves Logan airport (boston) to L.A with 9 crew and 56 passengers 8:21am 3- flight 77a 757 leaves dulles airport(washington) with 6 crew and 58 passengersto L.A 8:42am 4- flight 93 a 757 leaves Newark to san fran with 38 passengers and 7 crew 8:47am flight 11 hits the north tower 9:02am flight 175 hits the south tower 9:41am flight 77 hits the pentagon 9:50am the south tower collapses 10:00am flight 93 land in Shanksville 10:28am north tower collapses 5:20pm building #7 collapses

why did it take flight 93 1 hr and 18mins to hit shanksville when there course was pretty much straight with only one turn and yet flight 11 only took 47mins with more turns and only a slight less distance. Why is flight 77 return flight unknown and why did it take 1 hr and 22mins.

As you can see there was time for the passengers to get off in mid air on most of these flights.

I truly believe that these passengers were never killed in these flights but were simply transfered to a safe location.

Nathan

~a Boeing 757 is 125 ft. wide and 155 feet long. The whole in the pentagon was 60ft across ~ There is a surprising lack of plane parts in the actual pentagon ~People who work in the pentagon were trained to protect themselves if a plane hit ~ WCPO reported 2 planes landing in Cleveland Airport (after flight 93 crash) one of the planes was identified as flight 93 ~Important files were moved from the pentagon ~The people on the plane heading to the pentagon sounded to calm ~Pentagon was hit at 9:37 am ~ Some witnesses feel that instead of plane it was a missile ~It is said that the fbi took just under 80 personal videos ~Conspiracies believe it was a missile not a plane because a boeng 757 could not make it through the cement barrier The lack of plane parts was not from them getting burned but conspirasists believe it was in fact a missile of a smaller plane ~2 of the planes were not supposed to be flying on sept 11 ~some people say that the plane was vaporized but there was still the bodys... why were the body’s not burned